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oiotari
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on: May 27, 2009 04:52
while I do find it odd that they aren't just putting the whole of the hobbit into one film, I don't think they'll need to make anything up to fill the time. Usually when books are adapted to film they have to cut a lot, so hopefully they'll have to do less cutting. But I'm also worried that they will needlessly add content, despite the fact that there is plenty in the book
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on: July 02, 2009 02:12
so where's the big announcement,huh? Didn't GDT say we'd get definite news on who his choice is to play Bilbo "in a couple of weeks", like, a month ago??
The lack of info is starting to make me feel really pissy
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on: July 03, 2009 05:52
so where's the big announcement,huh? Didn't GDT say we'd get definite news on who his choice is to play Bilbo "in a couple of weeks", like, a month ago??
The lack of info is starting to make me feel really pissy


You're absolutely right Aowyn. I was starting to think about it myself.
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on: July 03, 2009 06:48
indeed. Not to compare alot, but The Voyage of the Dawn Treader and The Hobbit both were announced and "started" about the same time. Dawn Treader is filiming this month already. And the Hobbit? still draggin along... is it just me, or does it seem like they are taking forever? grrr
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on: July 07, 2009 01:27
I saw somewhere that he is already working on casting for some re-make of Frankenstein he's also doing...wish he'd tackle the Hobbit first.
Meh. Sorry I'm so whiny.
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on: July 15, 2009 02:40
*reads article on CoE home page* :cry::cry::cry::cry:
"Why can't they just pay people right, I thought that the money had been paid in the last lawsuit. And it's not fair for them to terminate the rights. *sniffle*

[Edited on 16/7/2009 by starofdunedain]
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on: July 15, 2009 03:57
*also reads article*
ugh, all this legal stuff just gets on my nerves :nono:
seems really extreme to terminate rights, and when a new film is already being worked on
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on: July 15, 2009 08:08
I don't think they'll terminate production on 'The Hobbit' because I'm sure that the Tolkien Estate knows it will get more readers + more money when the films are released. Maybe as for rights they might be referring to 'The Silmarillion' or Tolkien's other works ... who knows ... fingers crossed!
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on: July 16, 2009 04:13
*also reads article*
ugh, all this legal stuff just gets on my nerves :nono:
seems really extreme to terminate rights, and when a new film is already being worked on


Agreed...

Man this is putting me down today.

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on: July 16, 2009 04:44
The legal things are annoying me too. Also, they never really seem to take into account what the fans want, which seems a little stupid to me. After all, if not for the fans, they probably wouldn't even be able to fund all this argy-bargy over rights and what the Tolkien Estate gets paid and such.
Money is a daft thing to fight over anyway. It's only bits of metal and paper after all.
Didn't GDT say we'd get definite news on who his choice is to play Bilbo "in a couple of weeks", like, a month ago??
Wasn't it going to be that guy who (I think) played Tumnus in The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe? Or I seem to remember they were considering Jack Black, which just proves how absolutely mental casting departments are. (Nothing against JB, but he could never be Bilbo.) Though I think they should look for somebody a bit older, since Bilbo was fifty when he set out and so he should probably look quite middle-aged.
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on: July 16, 2009 09:57
Wasn't it going to be that guy who (I think) played Tumnus in The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe?

I think he'd make a great Bilbo.
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on: July 16, 2009 04:29
Wasn't it going to be that guy who (I think) played Tumnus in The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe?

That would be James MacAvoy.
MacAvoy denied that he was going to play Bilbo, which is too bad. I think he'd be perfect.
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on: July 16, 2009 08:01
Does anyone know if it's true that Viggo was recently in NZ for a couple weeks? Meetings for the Hobbit, vacation, visiting his lovely horse???

Love to see him back again.
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on: July 17, 2009 01:31
Wasn't it going to be that guy who (I think) played Tumnus in The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe?

That would be James MacAvoy.
MacAvoy denied that he was going to play Bilbo, which is too bad. I think he'd be perfect.


I saw a post on another website saying that he had already committed to another movie (sequel to something he's done already) during the hobbit filming period...I guess we will see.

I wonder if they will make any announcements at ComicCon. I don't think GDT will be there, but PJ will.
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on: July 17, 2009 01:46
Hmm in answer to my own question, there's an article over at IMDB on the Hobbit page saying "no" on the Comic-Con announcement...so boo.
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on: July 20, 2009 11:17
Fresh news about 'The Hobbit' casting on TheOneRing -
http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2009/07/20/32801-empire-confirms-torn-no-hobbit-casting-news-at-sdcc

I'm quite disappointed, since we were led to believe we'd receive confirmation soon



[Edited on 21/7/2009 by Ilandir]
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on: July 21, 2009 11:36
This is frustrating though I can understand them wanting to get the script worked out so they've got something to show potential cast. Speaking of, I can't believe they're considering Daniel Radcliffe. I like the lad, I just don't see him as Bilbo.

I still can't get used to a skinny PJ.
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on: July 22, 2009 01:04
What was most disappointing was the fact that over a month ago - this link was posted on the OneRing website:

http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2009/06/04/exclusive-guillermo-del-toro-very-close-to-annoucing-bilbo-baggins-casting-for-the-hobbit/

Seems none of that is happening with PJ's statement yesterday ...

[Edited on 22/7/2009 by Ilandir]
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on: July 22, 2009 02:00
Speaking of, I can't believe they're considering Daniel Radcliffe. I like the lad, I just don't see him as Bilbo.

I still can't get used to a skinny PJ.

Yeah, he doesn't look Hobbity to me anymore
I haven't heard the DR thing before this week, unlike the other names which I've been hearing for months, so I'm writing that off as inattention on my part or a wild rumor
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on: July 23, 2009 05:55
I think Daniel will probably be busy with the Deathly Hallows movies. (What is it with this new fashion for splitting book adaptations into two films when it's unnecessary?)

On another note, I just found Wikipedia's Hobbit film article. Very informative. Apparently they are going to be redesigning the goblins, spiders, and Wargs, which is great - the original movie Wargs were a little, um, off. Hopefully they won't make the spiders look like mutant bunnies as in the cartoon. And Ian Holm could be narrating, possibly. Also Del Toro is also quoted as saying (before writing began), that if they couldn't find a "story" for the second film, they'd probably just film The Hobbit. He's supposed to have said: "The Hobbit is better contained in a single film and kept brisk and fluid with no artificial 'break point'." - does anyone know if he's changed his mind on this or what?

David Tennant is apparently also being considered as a potential Bilbo - someone already said that, right? I'm not sure about that idea. On the one hand I'll probably never be able to stop thinking of him as "Doctor Who", but on the other he actually does look hobbitish, albeit in a very mischievous, Pippinesque kind of way, which probably wouldn't work - Bilbo was supposed to be serious/predictable initially, though he changed a bit over the course of the story. And again, a bit young to play a fifty-year-old. Admittedly Elijah Wood did so, but Frodo had to look "just out of his tweens" as the effects of the Ring prevented him aging, whereas Bilbo would actually look fifty.
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on: July 23, 2009 06:40
I'm hearing rumors of David Jones being cast as Thranduil, and some website mentioned GDT approaching Eric Bana and Ron Pearlman about a role. Interesting.
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on: July 23, 2009 06:48
Also, I'm hearing Christopher Lee wants to meet with GDT and be the voice for Smaug.

[Edited on 23/7/2009 by Ashbrook]
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on: July 23, 2009 11:52
Christopher Lee could make a great Smaug! I think Martin Freeman would be the best Bilbo or someone unknown with good Hobbit-looks and acting skills like him. I hope GDT announces the casting of Bilbo soon perhaps at comic-con this weekend.
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on: July 23, 2009 12:53
someone unknown with good Hobbit-looks
Yes, I think that might be best - someone we've rarely or never seen before but who is nevertheless a good actor. It seems as if new actors don't get as much of a chance these days as they used to. Actors who are already famous or who are "hot" seem to be chosen for roles rather than those who have genuine talent.

I don't think Christopher Lee should voice Smaug. He just doesn't sound like him. I'm not sure who would sound right, though... hmm. *considers*

EDIT: Ah, I remember who I thought might be good at voicing Smaug - Jeremy Irons. Any thoughts?

[Edited on 23/7/2009 by LOTR_obsessed_loony]
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on: July 23, 2009 11:14
Martin Freeman for Bilbo - Agreed!
Jeremy Irons for Smaug - Agreed!

I agree with these two decisions. It would make a really good combination!

I feel Christopher Lee is now linked with Saruman, and everytime I hear his voice, I think of that character (as I think most LoTR movie-goers do) - so I don't think making him voice Smaug would be a good idea - unless they want to convey the dragon as being controlled by Saruman!

[Edited on 24/7/2009 by Ilandir]
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on: July 24, 2009 08:46
Hm, I didn't realize Christopher Lee is almost 90 years old, that's insane. He's still in great shape. I can't say I'd like sir Lee as Smaug either, just because he is infact linked with Sarauman. I really can't see Jeremy irons as the voice of smaug either. I don't think he'd sound "evil" enough. I was thinking maybe (bear with me) Tim Curry?
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on: July 24, 2009 08:48
hmmm I don't know about Jeremy Irons. It has been shown that John Rhys-Davies voiced Tree-Beard pretty well even though he also played Gimli, so I think Christopher Lee could do a good job however he would have to change his voice a bit.
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on: July 24, 2009 09:04
Crazy idea, I know, but what about Sean Connery for Smaug? I remember him in Dragonheart -- though the movie stunk I thought he did a great job. Then again, his voice isn't very villainous, is it?

I'm all for Martin Freeman playing Bilbo, but then I wouldn't be heartbroken if James McAvoy was chosen. Just either way, I guess.

Anyone remember if there was this much hype about the choice of Elijah Wood as Frodo? I wouldn't remember.
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on: July 24, 2009 09:08
hmmm I don't know about Jeremy Irons. It has been shown that John Rhys-Davies voiced Tree-Beard pretty well even though he also played Gimli, so I think Christopher Lee could do a good job however he would have to change his voice a bit.


This is a very good point. Of course, I wonder how christopher Lee will change his voice. He has a very distinct tone, and accent.
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on: July 24, 2009 04:43
Let me throw this out there, how about Richard Serkis as Bilbo or a complete unkown. Just a thought. As for Smaug, i like the Tim Curry idea.
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on: July 24, 2009 08:55
Crazy idea, I know, but what about Sean Connery for Smaug? I remember him in Dragonheart -- though the movie stunk I thought he did a great job. Then again, his voice isn't very villainous, is it?

I'm all for Martin Freeman playing Bilbo, but then I wouldn't be heartbroken if James McAvoy was chosen. Just either way, I guess.

Anyone remember if there was this much hype about the choice of Elijah Wood as Frodo? I wouldn't remember.


From what I remember, there wasn't a whole lot going on. No one had a clue who he was, except that kid who played huck Finn a few years ago. I remember people laughing when they heard that "Rudy" was going to be playing Sam, and a few people were a little aggrivated that Viggo Mortensen got the part, instead of Russel Crowe...Man, I wouldn't have minded Crowe, but the first person they asked was Nick Cage...Shoot me. Oh, and Bruce Willis was supposed to play Boromir. Anyone see that? Haha.
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on: July 25, 2009 10:13
*smacks forehead* I just remembered. Sean Connery was actually in the lineup for Gandalf before, but got instantly turned down when he made the remark: "What's a bobbit?" Told'ja it was a crazy idea.

Bruce Willis? For-- Boromir?? *boggles*

In response to olion, I think it just might be a good idea to get a complete unknown. I dunno, it worked splendidly last time when they gambled on "Huck Finn" for Frodo -- or at least I think so.
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on: July 25, 2009 09:31
I really can't see Jeremy irons as the voice of smaug either. I don't think he'd sound "evil" enough.

Not evil enough? Have a look at 'The Lion King' - the character of Scar (voiced by Jeremy Irons himself). He's got a subtle menace and evil in him - just as I've always imagined Smaug to be ...

[Edited on 26/7/2009 by Ilandir]
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on: July 26, 2009 01:59
Jeremy Irons would be perfect for Smaug. Not saying that C.Lee wouldn't do a good job, especially knowing his enthusiasm for this whole world, but Irons just screams for that role.

As for the role of Bilbo... eh, I just hope they don't make him too young, as Frodo was. I've always had the image of Bilbo as a more gentleman (gentle-hobbit?) like so the rumors about casting Radcliffe are hopefully just a product of a really twisted sense of humor. Even following the book it clearly says that Bilbo was "unchanged" from the time he got the ring till the time we saw him in the fellowship. Not sure whom I'd recommend here, other than to hope for an older actor. Jim Broadbent in the last Harry Potter movie (prof. Slughorn) really had a great image of Bilbo on him, he's 59 at the moment so it's close enough.

Though having Ian Holm doing narration would really be a magical thing
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on: July 28, 2009 07:10
Oh, and just to add something in there, Kate Beckinsale was signed on to play Arwen before she dropped out due to family obligations.

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